TZL Podcast: Mark Zweig on optimism in uncertain times

Nov 13, 2025

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If you're going to be an entrepreneur and you're going to accomplish anything and you're going to grow your business in spite of a lot of negative things happening, you've got to be positive. So it's absolutely essential.

  • Mark Zweig

Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Zweig Letter Podcast, host Randy Wilburn sits down with Mark Zweig for a candid conversation about leadership, optimism, and embracing change in the AEC industry. Drawing from decades of experience and stories from the design trenches, Mark unpacks how leaders can break with outdated thinking, foster resilience, and turn market challenges into opportunities.

From evolving workplace cultures—including tales of "buttoned down" firms in the '90s—to the importance of decisive leadership, Mark and Randy explore what it takes to maintain an entrepreneurial mindset in uncertain times. The conversation digs into strategies around client outreach, the risks of overanalyzing decisions, and why open-book management and broader ownership structures drive firm success.

Tune in for actionable advice and fresh perspectives on thriving through economic uncertainty.

Key Takeaways:

  • Leadership in Uncertainty: In challenging times, leaders must combine realism with optimism, set the tone for their teams, and believe in success despite obstacles.
  • Action Over Analysis: Effective leaders act decisively, avoid “paralysis by analysis,” and seize opportunities quickly—especially when others hesitate.
  • Continuous Client Outreach: Consistent, genuine relationship-building (such as regular check-ins) pays off in business development—cold emails and calls still work!
  • Break Old Rules: Firms that creatively rethink ownership, encourage wider stock participation, and adopt open-book management foster loyalty and long-term growth.
  • Recruit Proactively: Treat recruitment like building a sports team—always be looking for top talent, even if you’re not filling a current vacancy.
  • All this and more on this episode of the Zweig Letter podcast.

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About Zweig Group

Zweig Group, a four-time Inc. 500/5000 honoree, is the premier authority in AEC management consulting, the go-to source for industry research, and the leading provider of customized learning and training. Zweig Group specializes in four core consulting areas: Talent, Performance, Growth, and Transition, including innovative solutions in mergers and acquisitions, strategic planning, financial management, ownership transition, executive search, business development, valuation, and more. With a mission to Elevate the Industry®, Zweig Group exists to help AEC firms succeed in a competitive marketplace. The firm has offices in Dallas and Fayetteville, Arkansas.